Friday, March 07, 2008
Friday Quickie (or Impending Trade Debacle Hastened by Inevitable Veteran Injury)
Omar Vizquel's injury may turn into a disaster of larger proportions than first thought, because it may quicken the seemingly impending (and ill-conceived) trade for White Sox third baseman Joe Crede. Why would a shortstop going down affect the third base slot?
Simple. With Vizquel out for at least the first few weeks, Kevin Frandsen is now the favorite to get much of the playing time at shortstop. Frandsen was seemingly the top third base option going into the season, so now that he is filling in at another position, it creates a gaping hole at that spot. Thus, it would behoove the Giants to snap up a major league-ready third baseman, post-haste.
Just not Joe Crede. As I mentioned a while back, Crede is just not any kind of answer at third base. Imagine a crappier facsimile of Pedro Feliz, if that can be believed. Unfortunately, the Giants have been rumored to be on the cusp of acquiring him all winter, apparently spurred on by Aaron Rowand's non-stop praise of Crede's intangibles (the Giants still have "character" and "grit" listed higher than "performance", I guess).
Crede may surprise us and turn in a good year that nets the team a draft pick, but more likely he repeats his usual combination of injured and sucky, and we have the same unwatchable mess at third base that we've come to know so well. Knowing Brian Sabean, he'll probably find a way to give up something of value for a player Sox GM Kenny Williams is desperate to get rid of.
-Into the blog arena steps The Bay Area Sports Machine, written by a Mr. Lomez (no Bob Sacamano as a co-author, though). It discusses all Bay Area sports, all the time, with more focus lately on the Giants, obviously, as Spring Training has arrived. Check it out, and take a gander at my personal favorite post for starters.
-Now for the really nerdy stuff. If any of you readers also happen to be fans of the movie Blade Runner, mosey on over to this weird website that I update once in a blue moon. In celebration of me finally being able to watch the BR: Final Cut Five-Disc Special Edition that I got for Christmas, I've been posting some stuff about the movie and some of the neat add-ons contained in the new DVD set. If you think this site charts new waters of dorky obsessiveness, you ain't seen nothing yet.
--This looks awesome...
Simple. With Vizquel out for at least the first few weeks, Kevin Frandsen is now the favorite to get much of the playing time at shortstop. Frandsen was seemingly the top third base option going into the season, so now that he is filling in at another position, it creates a gaping hole at that spot. Thus, it would behoove the Giants to snap up a major league-ready third baseman, post-haste.
Just not Joe Crede. As I mentioned a while back, Crede is just not any kind of answer at third base. Imagine a crappier facsimile of Pedro Feliz, if that can be believed. Unfortunately, the Giants have been rumored to be on the cusp of acquiring him all winter, apparently spurred on by Aaron Rowand's non-stop praise of Crede's intangibles (the Giants still have "character" and "grit" listed higher than "performance", I guess).
Crede may surprise us and turn in a good year that nets the team a draft pick, but more likely he repeats his usual combination of injured and sucky, and we have the same unwatchable mess at third base that we've come to know so well. Knowing Brian Sabean, he'll probably find a way to give up something of value for a player Sox GM Kenny Williams is desperate to get rid of.
-Into the blog arena steps The Bay Area Sports Machine, written by a Mr. Lomez (no Bob Sacamano as a co-author, though). It discusses all Bay Area sports, all the time, with more focus lately on the Giants, obviously, as Spring Training has arrived. Check it out, and take a gander at my personal favorite post for starters.
-Now for the really nerdy stuff. If any of you readers also happen to be fans of the movie Blade Runner, mosey on over to this weird website that I update once in a blue moon. In celebration of me finally being able to watch the BR: Final Cut Five-Disc Special Edition that I got for Christmas, I've been posting some stuff about the movie and some of the neat add-ons contained in the new DVD set. If you think this site charts new waters of dorky obsessiveness, you ain't seen nothing yet.
--This looks awesome...
Labels: dumb trades, joe crede, kevin frandsen, omar vizquel
Friday, February 01, 2008
The Hyper-Twin Heist
It looks like the Johan Santana deal is pretty much completed, pending a physical, so I'll deviate from the usual Giants chatter to jabber about it a little. The deal would end up sending Santana to the Mets for outfielder Carlos Gomez and pitchers Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Deolis Guerra. Only Gomez and Humber have (fleeting) major league experience.
Now, realize that it takes about three years or so before a trade can be properly evaluated. Many things can happen to sway a deal in one team's favor, be it injury, unexpected development, personal problems, whatever. With that being said, though...
This trade is an abomination.
This is the best pitcher in baseball being swapped for a pair of B-grade prospects and two projected borderline fourth starters. This is awful. This is Pedro Martinez for Carl Pavano. This is Tom Seaver for Pat Zachry and Doug Flynn. This is Curt Schilling for a quartet of Diamondback scrubeenies. This is Babe Ruth for No No, Nanette. When does trading a superstar for prospects ever turn out well? Like, never.
Santana has been the best pitcher in the AL since 2004, is only going to be 29, has no injury history whatsoever, and there's no reason to think he won't be the league's dominant pitcher over the next six or seven years, which is the length of the contract it would have taken to re-sign him. Instead of hemming and hawing over whether they should trade him or keep him for 2008 and settle for two draft picks, they should have pulled out all the stops trying to lock him up to an extension. When a once-in-a-blue moon talent like Santana is in your grasp, you just have to do everything you can to hang on, because it's going to be almost impossible to get equal value for him.
You can say that the Twins have a cheapskate owner, which is certainly true, except that he just loosened the pursestrings enough to give Michael Cuddyer and Justin Morneau contract extensions. If you're going to overpay your okay right fielder and your first baseman, why not go all in and overpay for Santana? As the old saw goes, if you're going to overpay anybody, make sure it's a superstar.
You can say that Santana is a pitcher, and that pitchers never warrant long-term contracts because of the injury risk inherent. I wholeheartedly agree...most of the time. Santana isn't just any pitcher, though. He's not Barry Zito, he's not A.J. Burnett, and he's not Gil Meche, good-but-not-great pitchers with past performances that hardly warranted the gargantuan money they were rewarded with. Santana is the best and, again, he has passed through the most dangerous period of a pitcher's life (up to age 25) without any arm troubles, so he's about as low-risk as you can get.
You can also say that the Twins play in a stacked division and have no chance of competing with the Tigers or Indians in the near future, so why sew up a pitcher to an albatross contract when you aren't going to win, like a certain NL West team (cough)? Well, the thing is, the Twins have two star hitters, a decent farm system loaded with pitching talent, and a newly acquired outfielder with star potential in Delmon Young. It seems that they have a way better chance of catching Detroit and Cleveland in the coming years if they re-sign Santana and then build around this core.
Even if the Twins had received a couple of A-grade prospects, I'm still not sure I'd like it, because there's still a question of whether those prospects are going to pan out at all, much less give you the value that Santana did. The fact that the Twins got one star talent (and even that's in serious question) in this deal is what makes it a joke.
Nobody seems to be too excited about Gomez and his lack of plate discipline, and he has the most potential of the group. Guerra put up good numbers as an 18-year-old in short season ball, but he didn't strike a lot of guys out and observers came away thinking he looked like a finesse pitcher. That ain't good. Humber and Mulvey project as bottom of the rotation guys, and again you'd think the Twins could have gotten more.
The Twins are saying that they were forced into this situation, but I don't buy it. Santana was willing to stay in Minnesota and, with all of MLB rolling in dough, the Twins had the financial wherewithal to keep him, whether they want to admit it or not. No, credit the Mets for making out like bandits and most likely stealing the NL East for the next few years. It's my bold prediction that this goes down as one of the worst trades of all time.
--TGIF Vid. Flowers...mating?
Now, realize that it takes about three years or so before a trade can be properly evaluated. Many things can happen to sway a deal in one team's favor, be it injury, unexpected development, personal problems, whatever. With that being said, though...
This trade is an abomination.
This is the best pitcher in baseball being swapped for a pair of B-grade prospects and two projected borderline fourth starters. This is awful. This is Pedro Martinez for Carl Pavano. This is Tom Seaver for Pat Zachry and Doug Flynn. This is Curt Schilling for a quartet of Diamondback scrubeenies. This is Babe Ruth for No No, Nanette. When does trading a superstar for prospects ever turn out well? Like, never.
Santana has been the best pitcher in the AL since 2004, is only going to be 29, has no injury history whatsoever, and there's no reason to think he won't be the league's dominant pitcher over the next six or seven years, which is the length of the contract it would have taken to re-sign him. Instead of hemming and hawing over whether they should trade him or keep him for 2008 and settle for two draft picks, they should have pulled out all the stops trying to lock him up to an extension. When a once-in-a-blue moon talent like Santana is in your grasp, you just have to do everything you can to hang on, because it's going to be almost impossible to get equal value for him.
You can say that the Twins have a cheapskate owner, which is certainly true, except that he just loosened the pursestrings enough to give Michael Cuddyer and Justin Morneau contract extensions. If you're going to overpay your okay right fielder and your first baseman, why not go all in and overpay for Santana? As the old saw goes, if you're going to overpay anybody, make sure it's a superstar.
You can say that Santana is a pitcher, and that pitchers never warrant long-term contracts because of the injury risk inherent. I wholeheartedly agree...most of the time. Santana isn't just any pitcher, though. He's not Barry Zito, he's not A.J. Burnett, and he's not Gil Meche, good-but-not-great pitchers with past performances that hardly warranted the gargantuan money they were rewarded with. Santana is the best and, again, he has passed through the most dangerous period of a pitcher's life (up to age 25) without any arm troubles, so he's about as low-risk as you can get.
You can also say that the Twins play in a stacked division and have no chance of competing with the Tigers or Indians in the near future, so why sew up a pitcher to an albatross contract when you aren't going to win, like a certain NL West team (cough)? Well, the thing is, the Twins have two star hitters, a decent farm system loaded with pitching talent, and a newly acquired outfielder with star potential in Delmon Young. It seems that they have a way better chance of catching Detroit and Cleveland in the coming years if they re-sign Santana and then build around this core.
Even if the Twins had received a couple of A-grade prospects, I'm still not sure I'd like it, because there's still a question of whether those prospects are going to pan out at all, much less give you the value that Santana did. The fact that the Twins got one star talent (and even that's in serious question) in this deal is what makes it a joke.
Nobody seems to be too excited about Gomez and his lack of plate discipline, and he has the most potential of the group. Guerra put up good numbers as an 18-year-old in short season ball, but he didn't strike a lot of guys out and observers came away thinking he looked like a finesse pitcher. That ain't good. Humber and Mulvey project as bottom of the rotation guys, and again you'd think the Twins could have gotten more.
The Twins are saying that they were forced into this situation, but I don't buy it. Santana was willing to stay in Minnesota and, with all of MLB rolling in dough, the Twins had the financial wherewithal to keep him, whether they want to admit it or not. No, credit the Mets for making out like bandits and most likely stealing the NL East for the next few years. It's my bold prediction that this goes down as one of the worst trades of all time.
--TGIF Vid. Flowers...mating?
Labels: dumb trades, johan santana
